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anigbrowl 23 hours ago [-]
> Every social network strips these tags except the worst one
> Clearly we need more of it
I do not in fact want sites trying to get around my display preferences to post their visual presence on screen.
m463 16 hours ago [-]
Maybe it would be more acceptable if you added louder 24-bit music to the logo?
Grombobulous 19 hours ago [-]
If you own an HDR display then your display preference was to be able to display HDR.
Settings > Accessibility > Display Text & Size > Reduce White Point
illiac786 17 hours ago [-]
I own an HDR screen to display HDR content *when and where I want it*. It has significant value in photography for example. But I certainly don’t want to be looking at hdr ads.
Grombobulous 13 hours ago [-]
How can we expect to give out a technical ability like HDR but then gatekeep it to only “artistically-valid” endeavors? Who is the arbiter of taste?
Ultimately, you choose what websites you go to, just like people who create websites choose how to present them.
Retr0id 10 hours ago [-]
We gave websites the ability to auto-play audio, then they showed they couldn't be trusted with this privilege and we took it away again. We can do the same with HDR images, gating them behind a "click to view", or "allow this site to display HDR content" (plausibly someone could do this with a browser extension already)
Grombobulous 6 hours ago [-]
I’d certainly be happy to see more controls in the browser side to help control this.
I personally don’t consider this anywhere near as problematic as auto-play audio, but I recognize that that’s subjective.
Retr0id 6 hours ago [-]
Auto-playing audio used to be fine too, it took a while for certain websites to learn how annoying they could be with it - give HDR some time!
Grombobulous 5 hours ago [-]
I’m starting to wonder if this is a good idea for a Safari browser extension (if that’s something that can be controlled that way)
IshKebab 7 hours ago [-]
There's a pretty simple solution - gate it on full screen mode.
DauntingPear7 16 hours ago [-]
I witnessed my first HDR mobile game banner ads recently and it’s horrible and should honestly be illegal or something
13 hours ago [-]
hombre_fatal 14 hours ago [-]
Impressive, wrong on both counts.
(1) HDR display (e.g. you bought a macbook/iphone) doesn’t mean you want random videos in the instagram feed to be full brightness despite setting your screen brightness to minimum in a dark room and (2) reducing white point just darkens stuff across the display, it doesn’t disable the thing people are complaining about.
Grombobulous 13 hours ago [-]
I just figured out that low power mode also disables HDR and that’s a one-click toggle.
So to me the user has an off switch and the content creator also gets to express their creative freedom to use the feature or not.
If you don’t want to see HDR content you can do something else with your day. Nobody is holding us hostage to use our phones in a dark room or scroll Instagram.
solarkraft 7 hours ago [-]
iOS does not have this switch and it’s a pretty common platform. Low power mode also disables other things. You can of course do what you want with your creative freedom, you’ll just have to live with peoples’ reactions for non-consensually showing them something they passionately do not want to see.
Grombobulous 6 hours ago [-]
I just disagree with this concept of “non-consent” in this context.
This would be like buying a color TV and getting upset that the commercials don’t remain in black and white, and saying you didn’t consent to that.
But unlike in the color TV analogy we have two methods of disabling (low power mode and reduce white point setting) and we don’t just have 3 TV channels to choose from.
I will definitely concede that the browser and OS should have more controls around this feature.
solarkraft 3 hours ago [-]
Nope. It’s like buying a TV that suddenly gives content publishers the ability to show blindingly bright pictures regardless of the device’s brightness setting.
To become more metaphorical again, compare it to suddenly playing a loud, screeching sound or displaying porn or gore. The technology allows you to do it, but it’s offensive and you deserve the resulting anger.
That there is no viable setting to turn it off means there is no basis for consent.
Grombobulous 8 minutes ago [-]
Sudden porn or gore doesn’t seem like a close analogy. That’s way more extreme. This is a mobile phone screen, they really don’t even get that bright. Showing bright elements on your screen is not going to harm you in any way (and if it does due some kind of medical issue, you’d already have reduce white point enabled in your accessibility settings regardless of HDR content).
A better analogy is honestly more like “I don’t like the HN website because the top part is orange and I don’t like that color” or “HN’s web page is too bright because the background is white instead of black.”
“Sudden and unexpected” isn’t really how I would describe affirmatively choosing websites to visit. Sure, I guess it’s possible to click on a link with something unexpected, but it’s not like a TV channel where content is being sent to you in real time with no control over what is happening. If you are aware that a website uses HDR and you don’t like it you can stop using it.
This idea of a lack of consent is not really possible to be applicable because you can leave the website and do something else.
This is exactly why the FCC regulates antenna transmissions to disallow things like porn and gore on terrestrial television. Those radio transmissions are something we aren’t consenting to and they literally enter our homes. But if HBO shows you some skin and some blood you can’t complain about that because nobody forced you to view that content. Nobody beamed it into your house without asking first.
The analogy here would be “non-consensually hearing heavy metal music” because you decided to go to a heavy metal concert. Nobody twisted your arm and forced you to go there.
I provided two different viable settings to turn it off, low power mode and reduce white point, so this idea that there’s no basis for consent is bunk.
laptoprabbit 20 hours ago [-]
For your uBO (Lite) custom filters
soverybright.com##:style(dynamic-range-limit: standard !important)
linkedin.com##
:style(dynamic-range-limit: standard !important)
keane 23 hours ago [-]
For an authoritative overview of high dynamic range on monitors, I recommend the 137 minute documentary Debunking HDR (Steve Yedlin, 2025) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44248968
wlesieutre 21 hours ago [-]
Please don't
Retr0id 21 hours ago [-]
I'm on an SDR setup so I wasn't expecting to see the proper effect, but the square labeled "SDR White" is actually `rgb(220, 220, 220)`.
mikeshi42 19 hours ago [-]
I’ve always wondered why it happened, assumed it was a rendering bug.
fwiw it seems like “reduce white point” overrides any of these effects - which is good.
daigoba66 23 hours ago [-]
I’ve noticed this trend on LinkedIn just recently. Very noticeable at night, obviously, when my screen is naturally more dim. But these logos are like blinding headlights.
froh42 24 hours ago [-]
Oooh fuuuuuuck. Do we now have the HDR screen version of the 90s/00s CD volume wars? MAX IT OUT?!? BE LOUDER! BE BRIGHTER! WTF.
the__alchemist 7 hours ago [-]
Those wars still are onmnipresent in recorded music. (But haven't hit theaters yet, JCBP)
madaxe_again 23 hours ago [-]
Our new brand awareness strategy involves firing high power lasers directly into the prospect’s eyes, burning the logo into the centre of their fovea.
This way we get to skip awareness, interest and desire and get the prospect straight to action.
leni536 23 hours ago [-]
It goes up to 11
telecuda 22 hours ago [-]
"It's such a fine line between stupid, and uh" ... "Clever."
alpaca9 20 hours ago [-]
Look at the bright side, if it starts to get really overused then maybe the other platforms like LinkedIn will start stripping them too.
dathinab 20 hours ago [-]
and browsers might do so too
like something on the line of "if (image small || partially covered || mostly transparent) then don't use HDR"
uhoh-itsmaciek 23 hours ago [-]
In Firefox, the page tells me neither my browser nor my display support HDR. In Chrome, it works fine. Latest browsers on a Pixel 8.
nvr219 23 hours ago [-]
I noticed this as well on Firefox and I say, good, please don't fix.
portugueasey 20 hours ago [-]
This extra-bright-everything-on-HDR-screens crap makes me navigate away from sites every time.
Immediate irritation and if I could setup an adblock rule to stop it somehow, I would.
The worst cases give me the starting pangs of a headache, and make me adjust my display to account for it.
Can we somehow make it a rule that a website has to ask if they can blind me first?
varun_ch 23 hours ago [-]
If you use HDR videos, you can get bright white even on soon browsers that don’t support HDR images
dylan604 24 hours ago [-]
I just noticed something similar today as an ad where the green oval button was so bright that the rest of the white screen felt grayish/dull than white. It could not be unnoticed playing on the notion that the eye is attracted to the brightest thing on the screen
solarkraft 7 hours ago [-]
Why would you want everyone to hate you?
jtbayly 19 hours ago [-]
I hit an advertisement in Gas Buddy that was super bright, clearly using HDR yesterday. Bummer.
kccqzy 23 hours ago [-]
I hate gain maps in JPEGs. I noticed that because I insisted on capturing JPEGs and not HEIF on my iPhone, and I found that the iPhone would also show overexposed parts (such as the sky) brighter than plain white. That's how I came to know gain maps. Fortunately on iOS, although I cannot disable the inclusion of gain maps in photos I take with Camera.app, I can stop Photos.app from rendering them: just turn off "View Full HDR" in the settings.
The Metapho app on iOS seems to be a good app to view the gain map itself. I give it no access to my photos and use the share sheet to view gain maps of specific images.
jonplackett 24 hours ago [-]
Please don’t do this.
You know it will be annoying.
masklinn 23 hours ago [-]
On the other hand it’s a great signal that whoever uses that is an obnoxious twat and should be plonked.
Cameri 21 hours ago [-]
Plonked how many times?
xoxxala 19 hours ago [-]
Technically, you only need to plonk somebody once.
Pretty sure Fifth Star Labs’ Sky Guide iOS icon does this. Not the whole icon, just the stars in it. Hiding the app in a folder helps but I’m looking for a better alternative just because of this.
layer8 23 hours ago [-]
As a workaround, you can use a home screen shortcut to start the app.
But I agree that app developers shouldn’t do this, or should at least provide an option to turn it off. (Some apps allow customizing the app icon color, so it seems that should be possible.)
fjlunky 12 hours ago [-]
That’s a good idea, I haven’t used the shortcuts feature. I think this app also abuses the ability to change the app icon to provide subtle animations - but there’s no option to turn it off or customise.
pbhjpbhj 23 hours ago [-]
Uninstall the app? Leave a review, tell the developer.
gerdesj 23 hours ago [-]
The <blink> tag's spiritual successor.
telecuda 23 hours ago [-]
If you want to opt-out of the second coming of <blink>:
chrome://flags/#force-color-profile -> sRGB
hyperhello 23 hours ago [-]
Oh, I bet the author is kicking himself for not including a blinking high-brightness class.
shaky-carrousel 23 hours ago [-]
Or better, a blink tag that switches between HDR and non HDR text.
madaxe_again 23 hours ago [-]
Ain’t no use unless you wrap that bad boy in a <marquee> too.
gerdesj 20 hours ago [-]
Have you no mercy within you ... you ... web developer.
madaxe_again 23 hours ago [-]
We found that user engagement was substantially increased by making the home page just rapidly flicker between red and green. Some users stared at it for hours!
danillonunes 21 hours ago [-]
Didn't worked so well for the Pokémon show.
HWR_14 15 hours ago [-]
Pokemon is the most valuable franchise IP on the planet. Maybe it did work well.
telecuda 23 hours ago [-]
I mean, use it responsibly. Of course people won't, it's the internet, but a skilled designer may use it to highlight a word or an accent to draw your eye. It can be tricky in dense interfaces to draw focus to something (little tooltips or big buttons aren't the best answers). This is just another tool in the toolbox.
dawnerd 23 hours ago [-]
It’s bad because it dims the entire display. You’re assuming your app is more important than whatever else might be displayed. It can also take a bit for the os to go back to the sdr state. I’ve had a few cases where safari gets stuck in hdr mode and won’t revert u til I force closed.
Grombobulous 19 hours ago [-]
Dimming the entire display is not how HDR works especially on OLED phone displays.
If you are not outside in bright sunlight it’s almost certain that your screen is not at its highest brightness in the first place.
All HDR is doing is adding more range between the darkest element and the brightest element.
I.e., if you go to this webpage and set your screen brightness to maximum, the HDR effect visibly goes away because you’re already telling your screen to maximize brightness everywhere. Put the screen brightness at 50% and the HDR effect is visible: the bright parts are brighter.
dawnerd 18 hours ago [-]
Just tested it, everything but the bright dimmed. That’s very annoying. On an iPhone 14 Pro…
12 hours ago [-]
theturtletalks 23 hours ago [-]
I saw a restaurant on Uber Eats with a HDR enhanced image. The whole screen felt dim but I thought it was just me. How can it dim the whole screen?
masklinn 13 hours ago [-]
I’d assume it’s the display manager dimming sdr content to have sufficient brightness range for hdr content.
embedding-shape 23 hours ago [-]
> It’s bad because it dims the entire display. You’re assuming your app is more important than whatever else might be displayed.
What are you talking about? I have a HDR display, in Chrome on Arch the literal only change in the submission's demo is the brightness of that particular element, doesn't change anything else on the screen, sounds like you have a broken HDR implementation.
dawnerd 22 hours ago [-]
If your setup runs everything in forced hdr you won’t notice. OSes like MacOS will map sdr making everything look dim that’s not hdr.
dgellow 23 hours ago [-]
I think they meant that by making an element brighter than the rest you basically change the contrast and the rest will feel dimmer
masklinn 13 hours ago [-]
On mac the OS remaps the brightness range when HDR content appears. The rest of the content literally and materially dims.
embedding-shape 11 hours ago [-]
Lol, so one HDR element on a website changes the entire desktop environment to be dimmer? :P Fun implementation.
tjoff 23 hours ago [-]
We haven't had dense interfaces for decades at this point.
Still, even with the best intent what you suggest is still annoying. Okay, you got my attention, i now know what you wanted me to know. Are you going to nag me for all eternity?
telecuda 22 hours ago [-]
> We haven't had dense interfaces for decades at this point
GovTech is still full of them. But B2B/B2C, you're right.
The nagging will continue until morale improves.
opengrass 23 hours ago [-]
Waddabout an ImageMagick command or explanation how to export in Inkscape?
villgax 12 hours ago [-]
Assaults the senses takes a new example now.
pentaphobe 17 hours ago [-]
This is why we can't have nice things.
bigstrat2003 21 hours ago [-]
This seems like yet another reason to not run HDR. It is kind of annoying even when used responsibly, but now we'll have people using it irresponsibly too.
suprjami 20 hours ago [-]
Now someone vibe-code a browser extension which detects this and removes it.
A uBlock Origin rule for the whole domain of anybody who does this would be fine too.
perryizgr8 23 hours ago [-]
The page says it should work on my phone but it doesn't. No difference between the SDR and HDR versions on my phone (S26 Ultra / Chrome).
Jaxan 23 hours ago [-]
It also depends on your screen brightness. In my case, if it’s set to maximum, there is no difference between SDR and HDR.
AaronAPU 20 hours ago [-]
I’m known for having my brightness down to the minimum at all times. The demo page effect is very pronounced. Effectively, it is ignoring my system level preference which makes me hate it a lot.
telecuda 23 hours ago [-]
That's what I'm finding as I researched it:
Android's HDR brightness slider is low - The single most common "HDR does nothing" report on Android 15/16 devices. Samsung also has Super HDR/Extra brightness / Vision booster toggles under Display. Any of them at the conservative setting would have an effect.
20 hours ago [-]
mattlondon 23 hours ago [-]
Came here to say this. It just cranks the brightness up for the pixels. But if you are already at 100% there is not much headroom so all the "before and after" for me were pretty hard to differentiate. There was some minor difference if I studied it closely but I'd probably not notice it during normal use it was so slight.
If I went down to say 50% brightness then it was much more pronounced, but who lives their life with their eyes only half open like that?!
telecuda 23 hours ago [-]
I was only able to test it on my iPhone. Let me see if the S26 needs a tweak (or confirm if it's not support)
nnevatie 19 hours ago [-]
> Honest limits
…and it’s slop.
ris 10 hours ago [-]
This is why we can't have nice things.
conartist6 13 hours ago [-]
Thanks, I hate it. This just makes me think that I don't want to use a browser that supports HDR...
conartist6 10 hours ago [-]
That was the point, ...right?
DonHopkins 22 hours ago [-]
Now how can I draw Vantablack text on HD white for the highest possible contrast?
> Clearly we need more of it
I do not in fact want sites trying to get around my display preferences to post their visual presence on screen.
Settings > Accessibility > Display Text & Size > Reduce White Point
Ultimately, you choose what websites you go to, just like people who create websites choose how to present them.
I personally don’t consider this anywhere near as problematic as auto-play audio, but I recognize that that’s subjective.
(1) HDR display (e.g. you bought a macbook/iphone) doesn’t mean you want random videos in the instagram feed to be full brightness despite setting your screen brightness to minimum in a dark room and (2) reducing white point just darkens stuff across the display, it doesn’t disable the thing people are complaining about.
So to me the user has an off switch and the content creator also gets to express their creative freedom to use the feature or not.
If you don’t want to see HDR content you can do something else with your day. Nobody is holding us hostage to use our phones in a dark room or scroll Instagram.
This would be like buying a color TV and getting upset that the commercials don’t remain in black and white, and saying you didn’t consent to that.
But unlike in the color TV analogy we have two methods of disabling (low power mode and reduce white point setting) and we don’t just have 3 TV channels to choose from.
I will definitely concede that the browser and OS should have more controls around this feature.
To become more metaphorical again, compare it to suddenly playing a loud, screeching sound or displaying porn or gore. The technology allows you to do it, but it’s offensive and you deserve the resulting anger.
That there is no viable setting to turn it off means there is no basis for consent.
A better analogy is honestly more like “I don’t like the HN website because the top part is orange and I don’t like that color” or “HN’s web page is too bright because the background is white instead of black.”
“Sudden and unexpected” isn’t really how I would describe affirmatively choosing websites to visit. Sure, I guess it’s possible to click on a link with something unexpected, but it’s not like a TV channel where content is being sent to you in real time with no control over what is happening. If you are aware that a website uses HDR and you don’t like it you can stop using it.
This idea of a lack of consent is not really possible to be applicable because you can leave the website and do something else.
This is exactly why the FCC regulates antenna transmissions to disallow things like porn and gore on terrestrial television. Those radio transmissions are something we aren’t consenting to and they literally enter our homes. But if HBO shows you some skin and some blood you can’t complain about that because nobody forced you to view that content. Nobody beamed it into your house without asking first.
The analogy here would be “non-consensually hearing heavy metal music” because you decided to go to a heavy metal concert. Nobody twisted your arm and forced you to go there.
I provided two different viable settings to turn it off, low power mode and reduce white point, so this idea that there’s no basis for consent is bunk.
soverybright.com##:style(dynamic-range-limit: standard !important)
linkedin.com##
:style(dynamic-range-limit: standard !important)fwiw it seems like “reduce white point” overrides any of these effects - which is good.
This way we get to skip awareness, interest and desire and get the prospect straight to action.
like something on the line of "if (image small || partially covered || mostly transparent) then don't use HDR"
Immediate irritation and if I could setup an adblock rule to stop it somehow, I would.
The worst cases give me the starting pangs of a headache, and make me adjust my display to account for it.
Can we somehow make it a rule that a website has to ask if they can blind me first?
The Metapho app on iOS seems to be a good app to view the gain map itself. I give it no access to my photos and use the share sheet to view gain maps of specific images.
You know it will be annoying.
https://en.everybodywiki.com/Plonk_(Usenet)
But I agree that app developers shouldn’t do this, or should at least provide an option to turn it off. (Some apps allow customizing the app icon color, so it seems that should be possible.)
chrome://flags/#force-color-profile -> sRGB
If you are not outside in bright sunlight it’s almost certain that your screen is not at its highest brightness in the first place.
All HDR is doing is adding more range between the darkest element and the brightest element.
I.e., if you go to this webpage and set your screen brightness to maximum, the HDR effect visibly goes away because you’re already telling your screen to maximize brightness everywhere. Put the screen brightness at 50% and the HDR effect is visible: the bright parts are brighter.
What are you talking about? I have a HDR display, in Chrome on Arch the literal only change in the submission's demo is the brightness of that particular element, doesn't change anything else on the screen, sounds like you have a broken HDR implementation.
Still, even with the best intent what you suggest is still annoying. Okay, you got my attention, i now know what you wanted me to know. Are you going to nag me for all eternity?
GovTech is still full of them. But B2B/B2C, you're right.
The nagging will continue until morale improves.
A uBlock Origin rule for the whole domain of anybody who does this would be fine too.
Android's HDR brightness slider is low - The single most common "HDR does nothing" report on Android 15/16 devices. Samsung also has Super HDR/Extra brightness / Vision booster toggles under Display. Any of them at the conservative setting would have an effect.
If I went down to say 50% brightness then it was much more pronounced, but who lives their life with their eyes only half open like that?!
…and it’s slop.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantablack